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ECS GF8200A (NVIDIA GeForce 8200) with integrated graphics

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Date: 03/08/2008

abit A-N68SV
ECS GF8200A
Chipset NVIDIA GeForce 7025 NVIDIA GeForce 8200
CPU Socket AM2 Athlon64 HTT 200 MHz Socket AM2+ Phenom/Athlon64 HTT 200 MHz
Memory DDR2 533/667/800 DDR2 533/667/800/1066
HDD 1x UltraDMA/100
4x SerialATA II (RAID)
1x UltraDMA/100
6x SerialATA II(RAID)
Extras Audio HDA 5.1
10 USB 2.0
10/100 Ethernet
Audio HDA 7.1
12 USB 2.0
Gigabit Ethernet
Price: ~1500 rubles ($91) (Price.ru) ~2100 rubles ($91) (Price.ru)

The release of the AMD 780G chipset has become a remarkable event in the IT industry. The speed of its integrated graphic core has proved to be very fast, and the functionality so vast that we had to test four boards to examine the chipset from all the aspects. We also note that this product has immediately turned popular, and all the leading manufacturers have represented at least one motherboard based on the AMD 780G chipset. And what about the major competitor of AMD - NVIDIA? All this time, it has been coping with various technical issues, and the first products on new chipsets have appeared quite recently.

Therefore, we are testing a motherboard based on the integrated chipset NVIDIA GeForce 8200. But before that we note that NVIDIA has expanded the assortment of chipsets with the integrated graphics and included hi-end products (e.g., nForce 780a). All that is due to the latest Hybrid SLI technology which includes two important features: GeForce Boost, and HybridPower. The former is an analog to the Hybrid Crossfire and is aimed at value systems. Its idea is simple: if the user installs a value external video card (GeForce 8500 GT or GeForce 8400 GS) and enables the GeForce Boost, the computational resources of the external video card and the integrated video core are consolidated. Thus, the user gets some speed gain in 3D applications. The latter feature (HybridPower) is a tribute to modern fashion for power-saving. Assume that the user has a high-end system with two, three or four video cards merged into an SLI array. That results in an unparalleled high speed in the most advanced games and 3D applications. But once the user quits Crysis and launches a web browser (or solitaire), all these four video cards put quite a high load uselessly (of course, unless there is winter outside) and add to the electricity bills. This situation is fixed by the HybridPower feature which seamlessly disables all the external video cards thus switching the load to the integrated video core. Needless to say, the HybridSLI technology is rather complicated from the viewpoint of developers and programmers, which explains the delay in releasing new chipsets.

We now examine the GeForce 8200 chipset (code name - MCP78S) aimed at value systems. To start with, in terms of functionality this chip is not inferior to AMD 780G, it decodes and plays HD video as easily. The graphic component of the core as well has been improved substantially. In particular, there is support for DirectX 10.0, with the speed of running 3D applications has been substantially increased.


NVIDIA GeForce 8200

GPU-Z info

What else? The chipset implements support for the PCI Express v2.0 bus and also supports one x16 slot. Since the bandwidth of v2.0 is twice as much as the previous specification, some dodgy engineers can implement two slots having eight lanes each and thus get a SLI system on par with previous high-end chipsets (although these are merely our assumptions).


NVIDIA GeForce 8200

Now on to the expansion options. In this regard, engineers at NVIDIA have gained some progress as compared to the capabilities of nForce 630a. The most essential improvement is about the increase in the number of SerialATA links from four to six. The remaining improvements are minor and (at first glance) unnoticed.

Another important point to note: engineers at NVIDIA have merged one powerful and functional graphic core, the new PCI Express v2.0 controller, and the improved south bridge within one chip. Therefore, the heat emission of GeForce 8200 is quite at a high level and according to some rumors the delays with releasing this chipset are caused just by that. Indeed, during the tests the radiator on ECS GF8200A was heating up quite immensely but we did not come up against any issues or operational failures.

In conclusion, we bring in a comparative table of specifications for the GeForce 8200 chipset versus the specifications of the previous generation of NVIDIA integrated chipsets.

  NVIDIA GeForce 8200 NVIDIA GeForce 7050 PV
NVIDIA nForce 630a
NVIDIA GeForce 7025
NVIDIA nForce 630a
Supported processors Phenom
Athlon 64 X2
Athlon 64
Sempron
Athlon 64 X2
Athlon 64
Sempron
Socket AM2+ AM2
Supported memory DDR2 400/533/667/800/1066(*) DDR2 400/533/667/800
Support for DirectX 10.0 Yes No
Support for NVIDIA GeForce Boost Yes No
Support for NVIDIA HybridPower Yes No
Support for NVIDIA PureVideo HD Yes No
Support for NVIDIA PureVideo HD Yes No
Support for DirectX 9.0 with shaders 3.0 Yes
Integrated support for HDMI Yes Yes No
Support for HDCP Yes
Support for DVI Yes
Support for PCI Express 1x 16 (Spec v2.0)
3x1
1x16
3x1
Sound High-Definition Audio
Q-ty of SATA II/PATA links 6/1 4/1
Support for RAID 0, 1, 0+1, 5 0, 1, 0+1, 5 0, 1, 0+1, 5
Support for NVIDIA MediaShield Yes
Support for Ethernet 10/100/1000 10/100/1000 10/100/1000
USB ports 12 12 10

* - The maximum memory frequency depends on the CPU used.

In this review, we also included the motherboard abit A-N68SV (NVIDIA GeForce 7025) to find out the performance boost in the integrated graphic core GeForce 8200.

Specifications


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A


abit A-N68SV ECS GF8200A
CPU - AMD Athlon 64/Sempron with the bus speed 200 MHz
- Socket AM2
- AMD Phenom/Athlon 64/Sempron with the bus speeds 200 (and higher) MHz
- Socket AM2+
Chipset - NVIDIA GeForce 7025 + nForce 630a - NVIDIA GeForce 8200
System memory - Two 240-pin slots for DDR2 SDRAM DIMM
- Maximum memory capacity 4GB;
- Supported memory DDR2 533/667/800
- Dual-channel memory access;
- Power indicator
- Four 240-pin slots for DDR2 SDRAM DIMM
- Maximum memory capacity 8 GB
- Supported memory DDR2 533/667/800/1066
- Dual-channel memory access
Graphics - Integrated graphic core GeForce 7025
- One PCI Express x16 slot
- Integrated graphic core GeForce 8200
- One PCI Express x16 slot
Expansion options - Two 32-bit PCI Bus Master slots
- One PCI Express x1 slot
- Ten USB 2.0 ports (4 integrated + 6 additional)
- Integrated High Definition Audio 5.1
- 10/100 Mbit Ethernet LAN controller
- Two 32-bit PCI Bus Master slots
- Two PCI Express x1 slots
- Twelve USB 2.0 ports (6 integrated + 6 additional);
- Integrated High Definition Audio 7.1
- Gigabit Ethernet LAN controller
Overclocking options - FSB adjustable within 200 to 400 MHz; CPU/HTT multiplier adjustable;
- Adjustable voltages on the CPU, memory
- FSB adjustable within 200 to 600 MHz in 1 MHz increments; HT multiplier adjustable
- Adjustable voltages on the CPU, memory, HT, and the chipset
Disk subsystem - 1 link for UltraDMA100/66/33 Bus Master IDE (nForce 630i; with support for up to 2 ATAPI devices)
- Support for SerialATA II (4 links - nForce 630i; support for RAID 0,1,0+1,5
- Support for LS-120 / ZIP / ATAPI CD-ROM
- 1 link for UltraDMA100/66/33 Bus Master IDE (GeForce 8200; with support for up to 2 ATAPI devices)
- Support for SerialATA II (6 links - GeForce 8200; support for RAID 0,1,0+1,5
- Support for LS-120 / ZIP / ATAPI CD-ROM
BIOS - 8 Mbit Flash ROM
- Award BIOS with support for Enhanced ACPI, DMI, Green, PnP Features and Trend Chip Away Virus
- 8 Mbit Flash ROM
- AMI BIOS with support for Enhanced ACPI, DMI, Green, PnP Features
Misc - Ports for PS/2 mouse and keyboard
- STR (Suspend to RAM)
- SPDIF Out
- Power indicator
- One serial port, ports for PS/2 mouse and keyboard
- STR (Suspend to RAM)
- SPDIF Out
- Power and Reset buttons
Power management - Wake-up on modem, mouse, keyboard, LAN, timer, and USB
- Main 24-pin ATX power connector
- Additional 8-pin power connector
- Wake-up on modem, mouse, keyboard, LAN, timer, and USB
- Main 24-pin ATX power connector
- Additional 4-pin power connector
Monitoring - Monitoring the temperature of the CPU, system, PWM, voltage levels, rotational speeds of the two fans
- FanEQ
- Monitoring the temperature of the CPU, system, rotational speeds of the two fans
- Smart Fan
Dimensions - micro-ATX form factor, 245x205 mm (9.63" x 8") - ATX form factor, 305x220 mm (12" x 8.64")

Retail boxes


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

Package bundle

  • motherboard;
  • User's Manual in English + brief usage guide;
  • Software & drivers CD;
  • one ATA-133 cable + one FDD cable;
  • one SerialATA cable;
  • a cap for the rear panel of the housing.
  • motherboard;
  • User's Manual in English + brief usage guide;
  • a sticker with the ECS Black Series logo;
  • 1x software & drivers CD;
  • one ATA-133 cable;
  • 2x SerialATA cables;
  • a cap for the rear panel of the housing.

The package bundles of both the motherboards is almost identical.


abit A-N68SV

Both the boards lack power supply adapters for SerialATA devices. Therefore, the buyer will either have to buy matching adapters or make sure the PSU has the right connectors.


ECS GF8200A

ECS GF8200A

Although the package bundle is too scarce, we don't think it is a shortcoming because that is made up for by the retail price.

Layout and Features

Apart from them chipsets, the major distinction between the boards is in their form factors. In particular, abit A-N68SV is made in the Micro-ATX format, while the ECS board - in the full-fledged ATX.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

Engineers at abit have provided only two 240-pin DIMM slots each for DDR2 memory modules, with the overall supported memory capacity being 4 GB. On the contrary, the ECS board uses for slots for DDR2 and therefore the overall memory capacity may be as much as 8 GB.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

As we already said, two slots are quite enough for the average value system, however, four slots allow for a more flexible configuration of memory modules and a more optimum use of cheap 512 MB modules.

Then, both the motherboards offer the integrated GeForce graphic core and allow for using an external video card which is installed into the PCI Express x16 slot.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

The configuration of the remaining ports is as follows: the abit board uses two PCI and one PCI Express x1 slots. The large dimensions of the ECS board allowed the engineers to fit three PCI and two PCI Express x1 slots. We also note that to cool the chipset both the motherboards use only an aluminum radiator. Although the dimensions of the radiator on the ECS board are much larger, the ratings for the cooling system are the same because these boards use different chipsets.

The expansion options of the GeForce 8200 chipset are superior to the 7025. In practice, this results in a superiority of the ECS board at the number of SerialATA links. There are six links: five ports are located near the chipset, with one more brought over to the rear panel. On the abit board, all the four ports are positioned near the chipset.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

A similar situation is with the number of USB ports. The abit motherboard supports ten USB2.0 ports: four of them are installed on the rear panel, with 6 more ports plugged in with brackets (missing in the package bundle). There are six additional ports on the ECS board (the required brackets are also missing in the package bundle). However, there are six ports on its rear panel (12 altogether), which is more convenient.

Both the motherboards implement the Intel High Definition Audio subsystem. On the other hand, the abit board supports six channels (ALC662 chip is used), while the ECS board - eight (IDT 92HD206XX5 chip).


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

Now a few words on the network support: the abit board uses the RTL8101B chip made by Realtek (10/100 Mbit), and the ECS - RTL8111B (10/100/1000 Mbit) made by the same company:


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

The board's rear panel is of the following configuration:


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

We note that the boards lack both COM ports and the one LPT port. On the abit board, they are missing completely, and the ECS board supports only one COM port implemented with a bracket (missing in the bundle). There are also differences in the number of outputs of the integrated graphic core. The abit board uses VGA and DVI, and on the ECS product - a standard VGA and more up-to-date HDMI. Besides, one SerialATA port is brought over to the rear panel of the ECS port. And lastly: since the abit board uses a much cheaper audio subsystem, there are only three audio outputs on the rear panel versus six on the ECS board.

Here is a traditional diagram of the boards (we found only a diagram for the abit board):


abit A-N68SV

Of the traits of the product, we note the Power and Reset buttons installed on ECS GF8200A.


ECS GF8200A

Now on to the BIOS settings.

BIOS

the BIOS of abit A-N68SV is based on the Award BIOS Phoenix version, while the BIOS of ECS GF8200A - on the AMI BIOS version.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

At first glance, the ECS board offers a wider selection of memory frequencies. However, we should keep in mind that the memory frequencies are in direct dependence on the memory controller integrated into the CPU. In the end, the DDR2-1066 MHz frequency is unattainable on principle for our test specimen of the CPU built on the Orleans, and that the respective item in the ECS menu is available is a flaw of the BIOS.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

In the respective subsection, the user can set the required memory latency timings, and their number is vast enough in both the boards:


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

The system monitoring section of the abit board is somehow more powerful than the similar one in the ECS product.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

In particular, apart from the temperature of the CPU and the system, the abit board also keeps track of the temperature of the power converter. The abit board also determines a greater number of voltages.

Both the boards support the feature for dynamic adjusting the rotational speed of the CPU cooler depending on the CPU temperature.

abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

Besides, the user of the abit board can also keeps track of the monitoring data using the Windows utility FanEQ:


abit A-N68SV

Using the FlashMenu utility, it is possible to update the BIOS firmware:


abit A-N68SV

We note the feature for controlling the memory capacity allocated for the needs of the graphic core:


ECS GF8200A

ECS GF8200A

In conclusion, we note that ECS GF8200A due to the latest chipset supports the Hybrid SLI technology (an analog of the Hybrid Crossfire).


ECS GF8200A

In the forthcoming materials, we'll tell how effective it is.

Overclocking and stability

abit A-N68SV implements a 3-line scheme and uses six 680 mkF and four 1000 mkF capacitors. ECS GF8200A also uses a 3-line scheme but a different kit of capacitors: six 820 mkF and four 270 mkF.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

Now on to the overclocking features.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

Motherboard abit A-N68SV ECS GF8200A
CPU multiplier adjustable + -
HT multiplier adjustable + +
FSB adjustment within 200 MHz to 400 MHz (1 MHz) within 200 MHz to 600 MHz (1 MHz)
Vcore adjustment within 1.35 to 2.0V (0.025V) within 0.8 to 1.55V (0.025V)
Vmem adjustment within 1.8 to 2.1 V (0.1V) within 1.9 to 2.4V (0.07V)
Vdd adjustment - within 1.13V to 1.24V (0.03-0.04V)
Vht adjustable - within 1.2 to 1.35V (0.05V)
PCI-E adjustment within 100 MHz to 150 MHz (1 MHz) -

Now let's look at the practical results of overclocking. To start with, despite the great number of overclocking tools, the ECS board simply wouldn't overclock the test CPU at all. On the other hand, there were no issues with the abit board - overclocking is possible, but the results are below the average.


abit A-N68SV

We produced these results with the earlier versions of the BIOS. Then we updated the BIOS for the abit board with the firmware version 14 and were annoyed by the fact that the feature for multiplier adjustment ceased to work. In fact, it did work, but any value that differs from the nominal (11) was replaced with 10.

After that, we updated the BIOS firmware of the ECS board to version of 22 May and were delighted to see that the "M.I.B." section appeared:


ECS GF8200A

All the overclocking tools remained unchanged (HTT frequency, voltage ranges), and it is convenient that they are all on the same screen. But the nicest thing is that all the features resumed to work and we were able to achieve the HTT=246 MHz. The capability of the board is definitely higher, but you can't measure it without reducing the CPU multiplier (this feature is not supported by ECS GF8200A).

We also note the lack of features for overclocking the integrated graphic core. We were especially delighted by the ECS board because we wanted to compare the overclocking efficiency of the GeForce 8200 chipset versus its direct competitor - AMD 780G (in ECS A780GM-A the overclocking tool was implemented).

Performance tests

It turned out that while determining the starting FSB speed, the boards set it at a high enough precision.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

In our test setup, we used the following hardware:


Test setup
CPU AMD Athlon64 3500+ Socket AM2 2.2 GHz (Orleans core, stepping DH-F2)
Cooler Gigabyte 3D Cooler GP Edition
Video card Integrated graphic core GeForce 7025
Integrated graphic core GeForce 8200
Sound card -
HDD Samsung HD160JJ
Memory 2x 1024 MB GoodRAM DDR2 GP1066D264L5/2GDC
Power supply unit FSP 550 W
OS MS Vista

Let's first take a look at the results of synthetic benchmarks.


everest1

everest2

3dmark

3dmark_cpu

3dmark03_game1

3dmark03_games

3dmark06_games

Now on to the gaming benchmarks.


q4 ssam2

coh

crysis

ptb

supreme

ut3

wic

Tests of application software.


3dmax

cinebench

pov

Video encoding (DivX, Xvid) was measured in seconds, i.e. the less the better.

divx

xvid

Data compression (WinRAR) was measured in KB/sec, i.e. the more, the better.

winrar

In general, the performance of the integrated video core NVIDIA GeForce 8200 is on par with its direct competitor - AMD 780G. Therefore, at this stage we can make a conclusion as to which of these two products are more preferable. Apart from the speed, we should also verify the remaining features and technologies of the GeForce 8200 (e.g., the efficiency of Hybrid SLI).

As regards comparison of GeForce 8200 versus the previous generation of NVIDIA's integrated chipsets, we can make only one conclusion: an undisputable victory at both the speed and the functionality. The only 3D application where the GeForce 7025 chipset can oppose against the GeForce 8200 is the game "Company of Heroes". But in reality that is not quite the case, because GeForce 8200 'honestly' displayed image in DirectX 10.0, whereas with 7025 the game enabled the 'lite' mode of rendering (since GeForce 7025 does not support DirectX 10.0). If the mode weren't there, the results would have been the same as in the game "PT Boats".

Final Words

First, we make conclusions regarding the GeForce 8200 chipset. In our view, it is quite a successful product and motherboards built on its base will be able competing successfully against boards based on AMD 780G. Besides, NVIDIA is planning to release two more modifications: GeForce 8100 and GeForce 8300, which will let the manufacturers to expand the assortment of motherboards substantially.

Now conclusions regarding abit A-N68SV and ECS GF8200A. Above all, the boards are within different pricing categories. The abit board cost about $65, whereas the prices for ECS GF8200A are a bit above $86. So, if you are into saving at any rate, the choice is evidently in favor of abit A-N68SV (or another one based on GeForce 7xxx). By the way, the $23 difference today is the difference between dual-core Athlon64 X2 4000+ and Athlon64 X2 5000+. If the $23 is not a critical amount, it's better to choose a board based on GeForce 8200. In particular, buying an ECS GF8200A we get more expansion slots, 8-channel audio (instead of 6-channel), six SerialATA links (instead of four), a Gigabit LAN controller (instead of 10/100 Mbit), twelve USB 2.0 ports (instead of ten), and four slots for memory modules (merely two on the abit board). And of course the user gets a much faster (about 2 times as fast) and functional integrated video core with support for DirectX 10.0, HybridSLI, etc.

As regards overclocking, at that we ascertain an provisional equality because of the lack (and incorrect functioning) of the feature for multiplier adjustment.


abit A-N68SV

ECS GF8200A

Conclusion

abit A-N68SV
ECS GF8200A
Pros:
  • high stability;
  • one PCI Express x16 slot;
  • support for SerialATA II (4 lines; RAID nForce 630i);
  • support for one P-ATA link (nForce 630i);
  • low price.
Cons:
  • Not found.
The board's specific features:
  • not bad kit of overclocking tools but poor results.
Pros:
  • high stability and good performance level;
  • graphic core NVIDIA GeForce 8200 and one PCI Express x16 slot;
  • support for SerialATA II (6 links, RAID; GeForce 8200);
  • support for one P-ATA link (GeForce 8200);
  • integrated 8-channel audio and Gigabit Ethernet LAN controller;
  • support for the USB2.0 interface (12 ports).
Cons:
  • Not found.
The board's specific features:
  • not bad kit of overclocking tools but poor results.
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