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ASUS P5E3 Deluxe vs. ASUS Maximus Extreme

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Date: 17/01/2008

ASUS P5E3 Deluxe
Chipset Intel X38
CPU LGA775 Pentium 4 FSB 1333/1066/800/533 MHz
Celeron Conroe/Prescott FSB 800/533 MHz
Dual-Core Pentium4 Smithfield/Presler
Quad-Core (Yorkfield/Kentsfield), Dual-Core (Wolfdale/Conroe) FSB 1600/1333/1066/800 MHz
HyperThreading
Memory DDR3 800/1066/1333/1600/1800
HDD 1x UltraDMA/133
8x SerialATA(RAID)
Extras 2 IEEE-1394a
Audio Intel HDA
12 USB 2.0
2x Gigabit Ethernet
Price: ~$320 (Price.ru)

ASUS Maximus Extreme
Chipset Intel X38
CPU LGA775 Pentium 4 FSB 1333/1066/800/533 MHz
Celeron Conroe/Prescott FSB 800/533 MHz
Dual-Core Pentium4 Smithfield/Presler
Quad-Core (Yorkfield/Kentsfield), Dual-Core (Wolfdale/Conroe) FSB 1600/1333/1066/800 MHz
HyperThreading
Memory DDR3 800/1066/1333/1600/1800
HDD 1x UltraDMA/133
8x SerialATA (2x RAID)
Extras 2 IEEE-1394a
Audio Intel HDA
12 USB 2.0
2x Gigabit Ethernet
Price: ~$320~380 (Price.ru)

Modern public is already used to the merits of digital photography - all the features are included into almost any mobile phone, and a "point and shoot" camera sells at "peanuts" today. But few know that as many as 20 years ago a film recorder camera used to be a dreadful gift. The cameras themselves were OK, especially that cameras made in the USSR were regarded as one of the best in the world. So they were presented with clear conscience and sincerity. But the owner of such a gift was going to be in for troubles: to purchase a photographic enlarger (costing as much as half the monthly salary), special chemicals to develop the film, special developing units, containers, chemicals for printing (developer, fixing agent), photo paper. Since all the process had to be done in complete darkness, a special photo bag, sleeves and a red lamp was also needed. All in all, the new member of photographers' community was in for lots of trouble.

These days, one of the "dreadful" gifts is a motherboard built on the base of Intel X38 or P35 chipsets, which is aimed at operation with DDR3 memory. The motherboards themselves have nothing to complain about. So you can safely buy it and present with clear conscience. But the future owner of such a board is most likely in for long hours of "nasty time" while looking for DDR3 memory around the shops, then comparing its prices versus those for DDR2 memory. In particular, retailers offer a wide variety of 1GB DDR2 memory modules priced at ~$25, whereas DDR3 modules of the same capacity cost $200. At the same time, their choice is highly restricted.

So, it's time we reviewed the two most "dreadful" gifts - ASUS P5E3 Deluxe and ASUS Maximus Extreme which are based on Intel X38 and operate solely with DDR3.

Specifications

ASUS P5E3 Deluxe

ASUS Maximus Extreme


ASUS P5E3 Deluxe ASUS Maximus Extreme
CPU - Intel Pentium 4 (Prescott (2M)/Gallatin/CedarMill) with the bus speeds 1066/800/533 MHz
- Dual-core Intel Pentium D/EE (Smithfield/Presler) with the bus speeds 800/1066 MHz
- Intel Celeron-D (Conroe-L, Prescott) with the bus speeds 800/533 MHz
- Support for Intel Core 2 Duo/Quad (Kentsfield, Conroe) with the bus speeds 1333/1066/800 MHz
- Support for Intel Core 2 Duo/Quad (Yorkfield, Wolfdale) with the bus speeds 1600/1333/1066/800 MHz
- Socket LGA775
- Support for HyperThreading
Chipset - North bridge Intel X38 (MCH)
- South bridge Intel ICH9R
- Interbridge communication: DMI
System Memory - Four 240-pin slots for DDR3 SDRAM DIMM
- Maximum memory capacity 8GB
- Supported memory DDR3 800/1066/1333/1600/1800
- Dual-channel memory access
- Power indicator
Graphics - Three PCI Express x16 slots
Expansion options - Two 32-bit PCI Bus Master slots
- Two PCI Express x1 slot
- Twelve USB 2.0 ports (6 integrated + 6 additional)
- Two IEEE1394 ports (Firewire; one integrated + 2 additional)
- Integrated High Definition Audio 7.1
- Two Gigabit Ethernet LAN controllers
Overclocking options - FSB adjustable within 200 to 800 MHz in 1 MHz increments; multiplier adjustable
- Adjustable voltage on the CPU, memory, FSB, and the chipset (NB + SB)
- ASUS AiBooster
Disk subsystem - One UltraDMA133/100/66/33 Bus Master IDE link (JMB363; with support for up to 2 ATAPI devices)
- Support for Serial ATA II (6 links - ICH9R, with support for RAID)
- Support for Serial ATA II (2 links - JMB363)
- Support for LS-120 / ZIP / ATAPI CD-ROM
BIOS - 16 Mbit Flash ROM
- AMI BIOS with support for Enhanced ACPI, DMI, Green, PnP Features
- ASUS EZ Flash 2
- ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3
- ASUS MyLogo 3
- ASUS OC Profile
- Multi-languages BIOS
Misc - One port for FDD, one serial port, port for PS/2 keyboard
- STR (Suspend to RAM)
- SPDIF Out
- ASUS AI Remote
- One port for FDD, a port for PS/2 keyboard
- STR (Suspend to RAM)
- SPDIF Out
- Power, Reset, and Clr CMOS buttons
Power management - Wake-up on modem, mouse, keyboard, LAN, timer, and USB
- Main 24-pin ATX power connector
- Additional 8-pin power connector
Monitoring - Monitoring the temperatures of the CPU, system, voltages, rotational speeds of the five fans
-Q-Fan 2
- ASUS AI Gear, AI Nap
- ASUS PC Probe II
- Monitoring the temperatures of the CPU, system, chipset (NB+SB), voltages, rotational speeds of the eight fans
-Q-Fan 2
- ASUS AI Gear, AI Nap
- ASUS PC Probe II
Dimensions - ATX form factor, 245x305 mm (9.63" x 12") - ATX form factor, 269x305 mm (10.6" x 12")

Retail boxes

The mark for the package bundle is in direct dependence on the retail price of the product. In this case, the price for each of the motherboards is over $300, so we have a right to expect a great number of additional components and colorful package. However, only the Maximus board can boast a nice-looking box (with a handle to carry it around).

Package bundle:

  • motherboard;
  • User's Manual in English + brief usage guide;
  • Drivers & Utilities DVD plus CD with third-party software;
  • one ATA133 cable, one FDD cable;
  • 6x SerialATA cables + a power supply adapter (2 connectors);
  • a cap for the rear panel of the housing;
  • bracket for an additional Firewire and 2 USB 2.0 ports;
  • two additional fans;
  • Q-Connectors kit;
  • USB-receiver AI Remote + a remote control;
  • ASUS corporate logo sticker.
  • motherboard;
  • User's Manual in English + brief usage guide;
  • drivers and utilities DVD;
  • DVD with the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game;
  • one ATA133 cable, one FDD cable;
  • 6x SerialATA cables + a power supply adapter (2 connectors);
  • A bracket for 2 additional USB 2.0 ports and a Firewire port;
  • ASUS corporate logo sticker;
  • a kit of rubberized feet;
  • kit of additional connectors;
  • a cap for the rear panel of the housing;
  • additional sound card;
  • kit of clamps, adapters, and nipples for the water-powered cooling system;
  • additional fan;
  • kit of clamps;
  • three external thermal sensors;
  • LCD-Poster.

The contents of the boxes is highly varying. However, the kit of standard items is the same: six SerialATA cables + one power supply adapter with two connectors, PATA and FDD cables, bracket for a Firewire port and two USB 2.0 ports, as well as a cap for the rear panel of the board.

Note that the cap in P5E3 Deluxe has a vibroprotective coating, and the cap for the Maximus board has a wire to reject the static discharge.

The documentation for the boards is up to the mark. Each of the boards comes bundled with a highly detailed user's manual as well as an assembly guide. All the needed drivers and proprietary utilities software are recorded on the bundled DVD.

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Besides, the Deluxe board comes bundled with a CD with third-party software. With the Maximus board, the user gets a full version of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game recorded on a DVD.

We also note that the package bundles of the boards lack bridges to connect Crossfire cards; however, there is a kit of connectors to facilitate plugging in housing buttons to the board.

As regards the optional items, the difference in the package bundles is especially noticeable. The P5E3 Deluxe board offers a couple of additional fans, as well as an external AI Remote unit with a remote control.

The Maximus board lacks such a unit. On the other hand, there is an external LCD-Poster diagnostic screen, a kit of rubberized feet, a kit of clamps, adapters and union pipes for the water-powered cooling system, a kit of fasteners, and three external thermal sensors.

Besides, there is an additional turbine fan and an external audio boar in the package bundle:

The final conclusion regarding the package bundle: we rate ASUS P5E3 Deluxe as "3.5/4", and ASUS Maximus Extreme as "4.5/5".

Layout and Features

The first thing what catches the eye is the huge dimensions of ASUS Maximus Extreme. And that has not misled our eyes - it is an inch larger (269x305 mm):

We are already used to massive cooling systems mounted on ASUS' top-end boards. And P5E3 Deluxe is no exception: radiators are around the CPU connector from all the sides.

But cooling of the Maximus board is even more advanced: on the north bridge of the chipset, there is a water block combined with a really huge radiator. Therefore, even without a water-powered cooling system the temperature of the chipset stays within acceptable limits. By the way, this radiator uses a rectangular unit with a Republic of Gamers logo which is highlighted effectively.

Each motherboard has four 240-pin DIMM slots each for DDR3 memory modules, with the overall supported memory capacity being 8 GB.

The configuration of the slots is identical for both the boards. These are three PCI Express x16 slots, two PCI Express x1, and two regular PCI slots.

The PCI Express bus lanes are distributed as follows. If two video cards are installed, 16 lanes is allocated to each. If three video cards is installed, the lanes are distributed following the 16+16+4 scheme. Besides, the Maximus Extreme board offers the 16+8+8 configuration owing to the Crosslinx configuration.

Both the motherboards use the ICH9R south bridge with a radiator. In the end, both the boards offer support for six SerialATA II ports located near the south bridge.

Besides, the boards use an additional ParallelATA/SerialATA JMB363 controller.

This chip supports one ParallelATA and two SerialATA II links (on both the boards, the SATA ports are brought over to the rear panel). Therefore, to each of the boards the user can plug in ten hard disks (eight SATA + two PATA).

Then, the south bridge ICH9R supports 12 USB2.0 ports. They are implemented as per the following scheme: six integrated ports (on the rear panel) + 6 additional (plugged in with brackets; the board comes bundled with 1 plate for 2 ports).

Besides, both boards support the Firewire. For that, there is an additional controller. On the ASUS P5E3 Deluxe board it is a FW3227 chip made by Agere, and on the ASUS Maximus Extreme - a VT6308P chip made by VIA.

In the end, the motherboards support two ports each, with the layout being similar: one mounted on the rear panel, with the other ones connected with a bracket (available in the package bundle of both the boards).

The motherboards implement the Intel High Definition Audio subsystem: ASUS P5E3 Deluxe uses an AD1988B chip, and ASUS Maximus Extreme - the same chip but installed on a separate board with a special screen protecting against induction.

A few words on the network support: each of the boards uses two Gigabit LAN controllers. In particular, on ASUS P5E3 Deluxe these are Marvell 88E8056 (PCI Express x1) and Realtek 8110SC (PCI) chips,

and on the ASUS Maximus Extreme - two Marvell 88E8056 (PCI Express x1) controllers.

The board's rear panel is of the following configuration:

In terms of functionality, both the panels are similar: there is an optical and coaxial SP-DIF outputs, a Firewire port, a couple of SATAII ports, and six USB 2.0 ports. On the Maximus Extreme board, there is a button to clear the CMOS settings (works only at a certain position of the CLRTC_SW switch), a connector to plug in the LCD-Poster, and in the upper part there is one of the radiators.

You can also notice a complete lack of LPT and COM ports. However, ASUS P5E3 Deluxe supports one serial port (COM) but implemented with a bracket (missing in the bundle).

Here is a schematical drawing of the motherboards:

Among the special traits of the board, we note only the three buttons: Power, Reset, and ClrCMOS which are installed on the Maximus board and are meant to start up, reboot the system, and to clear the CMOS settings. The first two buttons are positioned near the DIMM slots:

Now on to the BIOS settings.

BIOS

The BIOS of both the boards is based on the AMI BIOS version, with its capacity being 16 Mbit.

The section in charge of memory operation settings looks like this:

Additional adjustment to the memory can be performed with the "DRAM Static Read Control" and "DRAM Dynamic Write Control":

For that, there are the "DRAM Command Rate" and "Ai Transaction Booster" parameters:

Another important parameter that affects the performance is setting the memory operating frequency. The set of available frequency multipliers coincides for both the boards:

Now look at the system monitoring section. At that, P5E3 Deluxe lags well behind the Maximus Extreme model.

In particular, the Maximus model not only keeps track of the CPU and the system but indicates the temperature of the north and south bridges. Moreover, the board determines the temperature from three external thermal sensors (available in the bundle) and thus allows the user to monitor the cooling efficiency of the whole computer.

The thing is, the Maximus model offers independent adjustment of the Q-Fan feature for four (of eight) fans, with three can be "linked" to the temperature of the external thermal sensor.

Both the motherboards are able retaining and loading BIOS settings as profiles.

To update the BIOS, the ASUS board offers the integrated EZ Flash 2 utility:

We also note the feature for displaying the BIOS settings in multiple languages, and a section to control the functions of Intel processors:

Overclocking and stability

Before we move on to Overclocking, let's look at the power converters. The PWM of ASUS P5K3 Deluxe uses a 8-phase scheme in which there are eleven 561 mkF and two 271 mkF capacitors. The PWM of the ASUS Maximus Extreme also offers a 8-phase scheme in which there are twelve 561 mkF capacitors.

All the power components of the PWM on the boards are equipped with radiators, and on ASUS P5E3 Deluxe there is an additional radiator on the power converter of the memory modules. Besides, user of both the boards can raise the cooling efficiency through installation of additional fans (available in the package bundle).

Now on to the overclocking features. They are gathered in the "Ai Tweaker" section.

Board ASUS P5E3 Deluxe ASUS Maximus Extreme
Multiplier adjustment + +
FSB adjustment within 200 to 800 MHz (1 MHz) within 200 to 800 MHz (1 MHz)
Vcore adjustment within 0.85 to 1.7 V (0.00625 V) within 1.1 to 2.4V (0.00625 V - 0.025 V)
Vmem adjustment within 1.5 to 2.78 V (0.02 V) within 1.5 to 3.04 V (0.02 V)
Vdd adjustment within 1.25 to 1.91 V (0.02 V) within 1.25 to 2.05 V (0.02 V)
Vsb/Vpcix adjustment 1.05 V; 1.2 V within 1.5 to 2.05 V (0.05 V)
Vtt adjustment within 1.2 to 1.5 V (0.02 V) within 1.2 to 2.0 V (0.02 V)
PCI-E adjustment within 100 MHz to 150 MHz (1 MHz) within 100 MHz to 180 MHz (1 MHz)

We note the following traits of the motherboards at overclocking. First, programmers at ASUS have added the feature for highlighting the parameters exceeding the range of safe overclocking (in their opinion) with different colors. Also, the ASUS boards lack the ASUS NOS (Non-Delay Overclocking System) technology which is implemented on almost all the previous models by this manufacturer.

Instead, there is support for the X.M.P., CPU Level UP, and Memory Level UP (the latter two are only in the Maximus Extreme model).

The X.M.P. technology means support for the Intel XMP (Extended Memory Profiles). This is some sort of an analog to the NVIDIA EPP (Enhanced Performance Profiles) technology whose idea is in the additional information written into the SPD of the memory modules, where guaranteed stable memory operation parameters are embedded. Each set includes information on the memory frequency, voltage, respective latency timings, and most importantly, the sub-timings. Therefore, overclocking with the X.M.P.e is performed based on the memory capabilities: the memory frequency is set to the maximum possible and then, with the available multipliers, the FSB (and thus the CPU clock speed) is set.

The second feature - CPU Level UP - is somehow simpler and easier: the Maximus board offers a fixed set of FSB/MEM frequency values, and for better perception each set meets the specifications of an Intel processor.

For details of using this feature in practice, read a review of ASUS Maximus Formula (DDR2). Here, we merely note that the "Memory Level UP" features operates in absolutely the same manner as the name suggests - it is memory that is overclocked.

Despite the kindred BIOSes, the Maximus board is much superior at the adjustment convenience. The thing is, while setting voltages the P5E3 has no menu, which in our view is somehow inconvenient.

Let's look at the practical results of overclocking which proved to be equally high. The maximum stable FSB speed in ASUS boards is 568 MHz, which is a record for our test lab.

We even re-tested the CPU E6550 and found out that it was capable of running stably at 3.92 GHz (versus the nominal 2.33 GHz)! The previous achievement was 3.85 GHz, and you can take a look at the performance of this CPU at this clock speed in this review.

Performance tests

While determining the starting FSB speed, it turned out that both the boards overstated it (the P5E3 Deluxe - by 1.3 MHz).

In our test setup, we used the following hardware:


Test setup
CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 LGA775 (2.66 GHz; Conroe)
Cooler Gigabyte G-Power
Video Card MSI NX7900 GT (GeForce 7900GT; PCI Express x16)
Driver version: 93.71 WHQL
Sound card -
HDD Samsung HD160JJ
Memory 2x1024 MB Qimonda DDR3-1333
Power supply unit FSP 550W
OS Windows XP SP1

First, let's look as the results of synthetic tests (all the boards are based on Intel X38, except the Blitz version which is based on P35).

Now on to the gaming benchmarks.

Final Words

From the technical viewpoint, we found nothing to complain about both the motherboards. At their specifications, both are outstandingly fantastic products based on the X38 chipset. The expansion options, implementation of proprietary technologies, the workup of the overclocking tools, as well as the design of the integrated cooling system - absolutely all the parts are made at the highest standards. Moreover, both the boards showed record values at overclocking and provided 100% stable clock speed at FSB = 568 MHz. In view of the fact that the Maximus board uses a water block on its north bridge, we can assume that its overclocking capability is even much higher.

However, let's not forget that a motherboard is merely one of the mandatory components for a computer. From this viewpoint as well, the attraction of both the products is not so definite. First, both the boards are rather expensive. In particular, as of the late December 2007, there were a few offerings priced at ~$320. The ASUS Maximus Extreme was priced even higher: its price varies within $320 to $380. But that applies to the exclusive Republic of Gamers series, which explains the so overstated price.

Certainly, we can choose other motherboards based on X38 of similar specifications albeit at a much lower price. We can give up using the Crossfire technology and then choose a motherboard based on P35, which would be much cheaper. But the problem is not about that! The bottleneck of both the boards is in that they operate with DDR3 memory which costs 8-10 times as much compared to the regular DDR2. Therefore, for the home-based use we don't recommend either ASUS Maximus Extreme or ASUS P5E3 Deluxe. However, we repeat it again, we found nothing to complain about the boards themselves.

ASUS P5E3 Deluxe vs. ASUS Maximus Extreme

Conclusion

Pros:
  • high stability and good performance level;
  • three PCI Express x16 slots;
  • support for SerialATA II/RAID ( 8 links; ICH9R + JMB 363);
  • support for one P-ATA link (JMB363);
  • Integrated 8-channel audio and two LAN (Gigabit Ethernet) controllers;
  • support for USB2.0 (12 ports) and IEEE-1394 (Firewire; 2 ports);
  • attractive package bundle (includes AI Remote, additional fans);
  • passive/active system for cooling the chipset and the power supply module;
  • wide selection of ASUS' proprietary technologies (PC Probe II, EZ Flash 2, CrashFree BIOS 3, MyLogo2, Q-Fan 2, etc.);
  • additional set of AI Proactive technologies (AI Overclock, OC Profile, AI Net 2, etc.);
  • support for AI Remote.
Cons:
  • Not found.
The board's specific features:
  • record-breaking CPU overclocking results.
Pros:
  • high stability and good performance level;
  • three PCI Express x16 slots;
  • support for SerialATA II/RAID ( 8 links; ICH9R + JMB 363);
  • support for one P-ATA link (JMB363);
  • two LAN controllers (Gigabit Ethernet);
  • support for USB2.0 (12 ports) and IEEE-1394 (Firewire; 2 ports);
  • wide selection of ASUS' proprietary technologies (PC Probe II, EZ Flash 2, CrashFree BIOS 3, MyLogo2, Q-Fan 2, etc.);
  • additional set of AI Proactive technologies (AI Overclock, OC Profile, AI Net 2, etc.);
  • fluid passive/active system for cooling the chipset and the power supply module;
  • Power and Reset buttons; a button to reset the CMOS;
  • support for LCD-Poster;
  • attractive bundled items (including additional thermal sensors, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game, etc.).
Cons:
  • Not found.
The board's specific features:
  • record-breaking CPU overclocking results.
  • dimensions beyond the standard;
  • 8-channel audio implemented on a separate board.
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